04March
Finding Distant Relatives
After several years of doing research and finding out details about the multitude of 3rd and 4th cousins in Italy, I began to wonder why my paternal grandparents migrated to America. The only person from my paternal grandfather’s family that came was his brother, but as far as I could figure, no one from my paternal grandmother’s family came. Her last name was Piromallo, which is very uncommon in Italy, and almost nonexistent in America. My grandmother was quite well off in Italy, and so it really had me wondering. This is the record of my grandmother’s arrival in 1915.
Doing research on Ancestry.com, I often came across a Maria Piromallo that migrated to NYC in 1904. She was only a few years younger than my grandmother’s father, and I began to wonder if and how they might be related, Eventually, I came across an address in NYC on 15th street. And found that she was connected to the last name Petix. In the 1950’s and 1960’s, my parents often mentioned that name, and also mentioned an aunt Beatrice. As it turned out, there was a granddaughter of Maria Piromallo named Beatrice. I also found another name Della Torre.
As I began to piece this together, I called my cousin that is about 14 years older than me. I gave him my hypothesis, he told me that he didn’t think so, and that my grandmother did not have any relatives in the United States. He told me that Petix was a friend of my uncle and no relation ( he wasn’t, but his wife Beatrice was ). So I hit him with Della Torre, and he said that he remembers visiting an Uncle Aniello in the 1940’s in NJ. I said, “Well you wouldn’t travel from Queens NY to NJ to visit strangers”. Slowly, he began to put the pieces together.
A short while after that is when I found the address where Maria Piromallo lived. I called my cousin and I said do you know this place? He was shocked that I knew this address and said that his mother lived on the same street as a child. Bingo? So know I know that Maria was most likely my great aunt, but still no hard evidence. Maria Pergamo ( Maria Piromallo) 428 E 15th St NY NY
Luisa Sorrentino (Luisa Piromallo) 419 E 15th St NY NY
Eventually, a fourth cousin her in America, a great great granddaughter of Maria contacted me. She was also doing family research and wanted to know my connection to Maria. I explained my theory and my conversations with my cousin. She said that sounds plausible, but we still did not have any hard evidence. Linda was in the process of testing her DNA and so we figured we’ll find out soon.
Shortly before Linda received her DNA she contacted me very excited. She said, “I have the proof”. Amazingly she found an obituary that her aunt, that once worked for my grandfather, had left her. It’s from 1927 and is a paragraph from a local NJ newspaper advising of the death of Count Nicola Piromallo in Italy, and that he left a surviving sister Maria in the United States. Quite remarkable that Linda had an obituary over 90 years old. The aforementioned Mrs. Thomas Pergamo is Maria Piromallo.
Linda also had an anniversary announcement from two years earlier, showing my grandmother’s parents. Count Nicola and Princess Emilia.
A couple of week later, Linda’s DNA came throughand yep, we are cousins.
The evidence is out there, keep searching. I have found that even when you are just about to give up, you’ll find a piece the puzzle. Sometimes it’s best to walk away for a while to clear you head and come back later. But it’s there, I promise.
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I felt that I had to do at least one more post and give a My True Ancestry New Update. Rarely would I do this for one company, but they give such an enormous amount of data, and roll out new data and features rapidly. I won’t go into great detail on how to sign up here, you can list the first to posts to get that information.
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I did three upgrades when the discounts came up, and I now have Olympus access. This allows me to upload ten GED files. So I have added the entire family. I’m going to show you how you can use Living DNA ( I recommend that you send GED to them first, to get Haplogroups ) and My True Ancestry in tandem.
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Your fatherline has been associated with the migrations that occurred from the Near East to Europe during the Neolithic (New Stone Age). Around 11,500 years ago, haplogroup G2 split into two branches: G2a and G2b. G2b spread across Iran, whilst G2a travelled with its carriers across Anatolia and Europe. WIth the spread of agricultural technologies, practices and ideas came movements of people and populations. The populations that spread into Europe are thought to have carried the G2a fatherline with them, which helps explain the small presence of this haplogroup across Europe today. The high percentage of G2a found in samples from Neolithic burials suggests the carriers of this group played a significant role in Neolithic migrations across Europe some 6-8000 years ago (Lacan et al., 2011).
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24February
Italian American Stories — Frank Di Piero
In my second interview with Frank Di Piero, host of “Keeping it Real with Frankie D”, we discuss his two great children’s books “My Big Family” and “Teddy Bianco Goes to Italy”. We also talk about his series called “The Italian American Moment” where he tells the stories of our unsung heroes.
Frank Di Piero was born in Chicago and is 100% Italian origin. He has traveled to Italy many times and attended two study abroad programs in Italy, one in Roma and one in Firenze. He is the former President of The Harlem Avenue Italian & American Business Association and was on the committee to start an Italian American Studies Program at Loyola University Chicago. He is a Director of Casa Italia, and LITTLE ITALY Cenetta. He is on the committee of the Festa della Repubblica celebrated at Pompeii Church. He is a Chicago area representative of C.T.I.M., Comitato Tricolore per gli Italiani nel Mondo. He is a volunteer at Casa Italia Library and the Italian Cultural Center. He is a member of the Italian Catholic Federation, Chicago Branch 392. He is the former Sergeant at Arms of the J.C.C.I.A. He also has been a proud and active supporter of The Balbo Monument and the Columbus holiday and statue. He is a former director of Italidea-Midwest. He has performed with (IATC), the Italian American Theatre of Chicago. He is a former committee member of the Columbus Queen Contest in Chicago. He has organized and sponsored a seminar on Italian aviation and a cultural dance for young Italian Americans as well as Italian language classes for the youth and an Italian Community Mass at OLMC. He attended the 54th annual Italian American Studies Association (IASA) conference in Pittsburgh, PA in October 2022. He has lived his entire life around the North Harlem Avenue area. He has been married for more than 31 years to his wife Ivana (who was born in Calabria, Italy) and together they have 2 children.
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